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Inter402 (11:36:16 PM): you're trying to pin the blame on something
Inter402 (11:36:30 PM): and you're very skeptical of getting outside help besides your friends or yourself
Inter402 (11:36:36 PM): I think that's a mistake
Inter402 (11:36:42 PM): on both counts
Inter402 (11:36:57 PM): first because you're trying to find one single problem to nail down, and it's probably a lot of things
Inter402 (11:37:17 PM): secondly, because none of the people you are asking for advice are people who should be giving you the kind of advice you really need

Discuss. No, really. Someone write a comment, please. One that relates to this discussion.

Corch here

on 14 Nov 2001 00:43 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zenandtheart.livejournal.com
In a gross display of tactlessness Im going to tell you the one thing you probably need to hear that no one has the nerve to say for fear of upsetting you more:

Pull your finger out

In case your not familiar with that term, its aussie for stop whining about it and do somethign to change it. Complaing will do nothign to fix the situation, and when it comes down to it, the only person who can make things better is you.

That said, I still luvs you a bunch, so chin up and get your act together.

C.

Re: Corch here

on 14 Nov 2001 04:22 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ex-dervish821.livejournal.com
woo for somebody less subtle than me.

corch, you rock.

Re: Corch here

on 14 Nov 2001 08:25 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
Yes, and look at where it gets him.

Re: Corch here

on 14 Nov 2001 08:28 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
Everyone really loves saying that, but I have yet to see a person give me any constructive critism and ideas about what to do. If you want to sit on the sidelines and cheer like a fan, go for it, but I prefer my friends to be the kind that help.
Maybe you know what it's like. Maybe you don't - people are different. All I know is I'm sitting here with a problem that I don't even begin to start to understand, and you say "fix it" while you sit and smile and wait for the results. Well, fuck that.

Re: Corch here

on 14 Nov 2001 11:46 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ex-dervish821.livejournal.com
i don't think corch meant "you obviously know what to do, now do it!"
so let me go out on a limb and risk getting torn to pieces for being wrong. the way i interpreted his comment is that sitting around and talking about wanting things to be different isn't going to make them different. so go get a therapist, or medication, or drugs, or anonymous sex, or a change of environment, or a sex change, or WHATEVER might make you happy. just DO something about it. i mean, doing nothing hasn't worked so far, has it?

Re: Corch here

on 14 Nov 2001 14:15 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
Hmm.... sex change.

Re: Corch here

on 14 Nov 2001 14:22 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zenandtheart.livejournal.com
Jewls, you missed the whole point of my post. I cant tell you what to do. Rachel cant. Goldbug Cant, And Jason cant. No one can, YOU are the only person in your life who can decide what is best for you. We have tried to be supportive, give advice where it was asked for and you have acted on none of it. Which is why Im telling you to pull your finger out. By the sounds of things you do alot of complaining, and yet you take no action to make things different. You can sit there and say you have no choice in the matter but you ALWAYS have a choice, the question is whether you can bear the consaquences of that choice. Dropping out of school might seem like its not an option but in choosing to do nothing you choose to accept being stressed and broke and if you cant deal with that thne you have to choose to accept somethign else, whether it be a extra semester in school later or selling your car to ease the finances...The point is you ALWAYS have a choice, YOU have the power to make your life better, no one else does. If you are waiting for someone to come along and just make everythign better you'll be waiting the rest of your life.

I guess all of that sounds a bit harsh. I do still care about you alot julia but you post more stuff on your journal than anyone else ive seen, you tell us about many aspects of your life, you invite the criticism yourself. We're not doing it to make you unhappy, we're trying to help, and since being soft and supportive didnt seem to work, i figure its time for some tough love :)

C.

Amanda here

on 14 Nov 2001 16:05 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zenandtheart.livejournal.com
I agree.

Re: Corch here

on 14 Nov 2001 16:29 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
I don't post here to be criticized.

Re: Corch here

on 14 Nov 2001 17:19 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zenandtheart.livejournal.com
Im sure thats not what you WANT, but you cant expect to post the thing you do, provide so much detail about your life, and not have people make judgements on you actions, expecially if you are constanly asking them for advice. You are the on who choose to air the things you do in a somewhat public forum, if you didnt want feed back you wouldnt. But if you expect people to sugar coat their words to you rather than be honest, theyre never going to tell you the things you need to hear, only what you want to hear.

C.

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