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What's the definition of boyfriend/girlfriend?

I'd like quantity in response to this, even at expense of quality. If you can take the time to drop a comment, even if it's just one word, I'd appreciate it a lot. You don't even have to continue reading if you have a response right now and no time to continue - just drop me what you have and go do what you need to do.

To clarify: Most people, as far as I know, don't associate dating with being in love. Those states are independent from each other; they just happen to overlap in the right circumstances. Therefore, 'love' isn't part of the definition of dating.

If I take out that emotional tie completely, I get two (or more) people who enjoy each other's company, have some similar interests, care about each other's well-being and happiness... and engage in some kind of physical activity that society generally reserves for such relationships (whether it's just kissing or goes on to much more depends on the individual).

But... that's the definition of 'friends with benefits' (using the real-life definition (not the LJ definition) of friend). Friends enjoy each other's company, have some similar interests, and care about each other's well-being and happiness. And benefits are the physical activities that are generally reserved for boy/girlfriend-and-up relationships.

So what's the midpoint? What state stands between a 'friend with benefits' and, uh, a 'loved person'? What am I missing as part of the definition that, in your mind, makes the relationships different?

I imagine (because I've already thought of it, and one other person has already suggested it) that many people are going to say, "Exclusivity." But, well, in the polyamorous society that is Cambridge/Somerville and most of the groups I hang out with now, that's not an acceptible answer. Dating one person doesn't mean you can't date/'benefit from' another, to many people. Therefore it isn't a part of the definition - at least not if the definition is universal. Which I guess leads me to:

Special bonus question: Is this definition universal, or does each individual have to define it for him/herself?

on 25 Mar 2004 10:55 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
I'm not discounting the things you said as unimportant, they didn't answer my question at all. However, I think I can reform the question for you based on some of the things you said.

If you were dating someone (and therefore giving/expecting devotion), but did not feel 'agape' for them, what is the basis of the devotion? Can you put it into words?

on 25 Mar 2004 11:30 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] waya3k.livejournal.com
That's a good question...For me if I was dating someone (and I am assuming that this has been a realtionship of at least several weeks and dates) they would first and foremost be a friend. How would I know if it was going to be beyond just friendship? That's hard to say without being there...at least for me. For me it's hard to put in words because it deals with emotions that are not easily defined by words.

If you would have asked me yesterday I would have said that I would know because they would complete me. However, I had a long conversation with a friend of mine last night about myself, my divorce, and my future. She stated that I need to be able to be happy with myself and accept myself for who I am and not live for someone else. I need to be able to live for me. So know I would say that it would have to be someone who does not complete me because I hope to be able to complete myself one day...It would have to be someone that compliments me.

Laff! Prolly not the answer you are looking for. Sorry...right now going through a divorce and everything has kinda made me off kilter when it comes to love and dating. It's hard to answer in anything but generalities.

on 25 Mar 2004 11:37 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
No worries, it's a good perspective. :)

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