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Both [livejournal.com profile] ratbastrd and [livejournal.com profile] baronbrian have posted links to news stories about the possibly delay of the presidential election because "Al Qaeda" wants to disrupt our democratic process: Yahoo, CNN.

Also, for a little bit of humor in your political angst, [livejournal.com profile] tlluria linked Poker with Dick Cheney.

This is seriously scary, people.

on 11 Jul 2004 20:26 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] snarkyman.livejournal.com
Ya know, I'm one of the most cynical people I know when it comes to the Bush administration. I mentioned to a few people last year that if Bush were in danger of losing the election, his cronies would find a way to cancel the election. I thought it was far-fetched, but now I see I was right to be cynical.

on 11 Jul 2004 20:31 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kishpa.livejournal.com
Bush is in no way in risk of losing this election - he also would not try to cancel it. Our congress is made up of Democrats, Republicans and Independants. THEY decide whether or not an election can be postponed. Its not the Executive branch that decides.

This is why the Bush administration is trying to rid the world of terrorists. So this doesn't happen. Madrid is a prime example. Their election was run by terrorists because of an attack that was timed right before their elections. They played on the emotions of the people. The terrorists won their game in Spain. We should do everything in our power to prevent them from winning it here. And that's what it is to them - its a game. These people are distorting a beautiful faith and belief system into something ugly and destructive. Not just to their "enemies" but also to the true believers of Islam. Its a horrible thing.

on 11 Jul 2004 21:02 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ex-dervish821.livejournal.com
Sometimes I need a dose of *intelligent* people whose views are different from mine. Thanks for providing that. :)

on 12 Jul 2004 02:16 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] mr-teem.livejournal.com
Meh. Way back in the dawn of time when we were worried about nuclear annihilation, no one proposed shit like this. The biggest plan I remember was directed to the Postal Service to have a program in place for all of the survivors to fill out change-of-address cards so that what government was left could reach them.

Granted, the story points out that the person investigating determined there was no statutory authority. But the phrase "the terrorists have won" echoes in my head at reports like this.

on 12 Jul 2004 06:58 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] snarkyman.livejournal.com
Excuse me. There is a very good chance that Bush will lose the election. What is there to prevent Bush, Karl Rove, Dick Chanie, et. al. from raising the Terror Alert level to Red and declaring martial law the day of the election?

on 12 Jul 2004 07:22 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] brewergnome.livejournal.com
You presume that messing with the elections was the point of the attack in Spain AND that the party that won was behind the attack. There is no evidence of that. The party that won has some ties to unfriendly groups, but that group doesn't use either the tactics that were used (They warn people to get out of buildings they intend to destroy for example) or the methods (particular explosives) that were used.

And might i point out that technically the congress decides when we go to war as well? And yet Bush declared war unilaterally BEFORE going to the congress...

on 12 Jul 2004 07:38 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] flyingindie.livejournal.com
HA! The poker game link was hilarious. Lord, I hate Matt Drudge...

on 12 Jul 2004 08:55 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kishpa.livejournal.com
lack of stupidity will prevent that from happening.

on 12 Jul 2004 08:57 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kishpa.livejournal.com
I don't presume anything. I base it on the statement from the terrorists that were responsible. They stated that they were changing the outcome of the election to prove that they are a force to reckon with.

Actually, congress decides if we will officially declare war. The President has the autonomy for military action for 60 days before needing approval from congress.

on 12 Jul 2004 09:57 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] snarkyman.livejournal.com
Whose lack of stupidity?

Come on, back up your arguments.

Or am I feeding a troll?

on 12 Jul 2004 11:43 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
Erm, you're out of line. [livejournal.com profile] kishpa is a good and old friend of mine. I'd appreciate it if you could disagree without resorting to name-calling. I haven't seen her be rude in her opposing viewpoints here, so give her the same respect back.

on 12 Jul 2004 13:40 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] snarkyman.livejournal.com
I did not mean to cause offense to you or your friend. Please accept my apology.

on 12 Jul 2004 13:52 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
Thank you.

on 12 Jul 2004 17:14 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kishpa.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, I thought the "whom" was implied. The Bush administration is not stupid enough to pull a watergate-like move. Come on. Let's give a little bit of credit to that administration. Whether your political views are to the left or to the right, the administration is going to do no such thing. NO administration would do something like that.
Its fine to pontificate on the "what if's" but lets not blow things out of proportion.
Posted by [identity profile] kishpa.livejournal.com
WASHINGTON - The head of a new federal voting commission suggested to congressional leaders Monday that there should be a process for canceling or rescheduling an election interrupted by terrorism, but national security adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) said no such plan is being considered by the administration.

Federal officials warned last week that intelligence indicates al-Qaida wants to attack the United States to disrupt the upcoming elections.

"There does not appear to be a clear process in place to suspend or reschedule voting during an election if there is a major terrorist attack," DeForest B. Soaries, chairman of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, wrote in a letter to Republican and Democratic leaders in the House and Senate. The Associated Press obtained a copy of the one-page letter.

Rice said the Bush administration, while concerned about the impact of terrorism, is not thinking of postponing the elections.

"We've had elections in this country when we were at war, even when we were in civil war. And we should have the elections on time. That's the view of the president, that's the view of the administration," Rice told CNN on Monday.

- full story can be seen at http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&e=4&u=/ap/election_terrorism
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
Of course, statements from any and all politicians only go so far as their words are trusted. ;) But I, unlike perhaps some of my LJ readers, don't think that The Bush Administration TM would pull an election-postponing stunt. The US isn't ready for it yet. A few more years, though... :P

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