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I applied for a Customer Service job with Jet Blue airlines here in Boston. :)

Is this how people do it? Apply for multiple jobs at once? What if you want one more than the others, but the others respond first?

:-/

on 11 Jan 2004 10:56 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ratbastrd.livejournal.com
You tell them you can start inn two weeks, and you keep looking in thr mean time...

on 11 Jan 2004 13:16 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ex-krink990.livejournal.com
you have to apply for a lot, you're lucky if one in ten call you back. so just keep trying even if you think you're getting a certain one. and if one calls you back you don't want so much, call the one you want and tell them that you've had an offer, and you wanted to check on the status of your application with them. oh, and read, 'what color is your parachute?' by richard nelson bolles. let it be your bible.

on 11 Jan 2004 14:07 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] crazybone.livejournal.com
Yes. Apply to all that you're interested in and you feel you are
qualifed to do.
Other things to do:
1)Keep a record of places/positions you've sent your application.
Include any contact names, numbers,title of position etc.
Save info in and Excel spreadsheet or something, print it out, put it in a folder for easy access if they call.

2)Contact the company after about two weeks or so to check on the position you applied for and if a decision has been made yet.
If they don't here anything, contact in another two weeks.

3)Put the word out to people you know via email or in passing if
someone knows someons at company X, ask if they'd be willing to be
a point of contact for company info or if a postion pops up.
Keep a record of these contacts to refer back to as well.

Another book to check out is "The Interview Kit" by Richard H. Beatty. It helps on prep for interviews, because it breaks things
down by method and ways you can go in to an interview rather than
just going in cold.

Hope this helps.

on 11 Jan 2004 15:13 (UTC)
Posted by (Anonymous)
Yep, apply to as many companies as possible, and take the first job offered.

However, if another company does offer a better job a couple days later then I would go ahead and take it. Let the first company know as soon as possible before your official start date and everything should be cool.

Also, it's always better to have work while looking for that next opportunity. If you're not too crazy about your first job, then you you can always continue to look for something better. Just try to stick with one job for at least a couple months for nonprofessional work, or a year for a professional gig. Job hopping doesn't look to good on the resume.

-Αργω

on 11 Jan 2004 22:02 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ex-krink990.livejournal.com
That's a really interesting point of view! I have heard so many little tidbits of advice on my own job hunt. I'm curious as to why you would reccomend working at a job you're not really interested in, instead of devoting 100% of the available time to searching for something you really want. I consider my job to be finding the perfect job, and I wouldn't want anything to distract me. Anyways, let me know, I'm interested to hear your opinion on the situation.

on 12 Jan 2004 05:18 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] baronbrian.livejournal.com
Well that's not me in the anonymous post but I can answer the simplest way why to stay for myself. Money. As to what Argo's reasons may be, I'm not sure.

on 12 Jan 2004 05:18 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] baronbrian.livejournal.com
Job hopping doesn't look to good on the resume.

Hence the reason I have to slightly alter mine.

on 12 Jan 2004 11:46 (UTC)
Posted by (Anonymous)
As the Baron said, money is always a very good reason. Sometimes finding any job can be a time consuming process, much less the 'perfect one'. Unless one is collecting unemployment, welfare, or have a trust fund then there will be some cold and hungry nights ahead. Money may not buy happiness, but it can put food in your belly, clothes on your back, and a roof over your head. Sometimes it can even buy a smile or two. :-)

However that's not the only reason to become employed as soon as possible.

For starters, an extended period unemployment looks just as bad as job hopping. An old coworker of mine was hiring for his new employer and came across many applicants with long gaps in their employment. The first question he would always ask is "So, what have you been doing since you've been out of work?" Already he suspects this sort of person isn't a hard worker willing to take on any task, and unless the applicant can come up with a good explanation then their job prospects are dim.

I always want to be doing something, especially because I'm eligible to just sit on my arse and collect unemployment. I don't want to become lazy. Currently I'm doing contract work, working contacts, and doing little side projects on my own. I never know when I'm going to run into someone with a lead on a great job.

Especially considering my best job contacts have come from people I know and with whom I've worked. I was hired for my last job because of an inside contact who was a former coworker. I also have a solid lead with another company because I've worked with many of their new hires.

However, they don't all have to be former coworkers. A friend of mine was trying to break into the industry here in Colorado, but had to move back to his hometown because of the collapse of the tech market. He was broke, in debt, and had little choice but to take the first job he could find. It was a low paying sales position for a computer store, pretty much a dead end job, but he busted his ass anyways. He built up several sales contacts, and one of them offered an entry level position at a tech consulting company. Last I heard he was out of debt, looking for his own place, and about to be promoted.

So while it's noble to have high ambitions, I would never let that distract me from my more immediate concerns. I still need to eat, I still need to pay rent, and I still need to do those things that put a smile on my face.

-Αργω

on 12 Jan 2004 13:17 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ex-krink990.livejournal.com
You make some really valid points, but I still don't agree that taking any job as soon as you can is the best route. I think it is the elements of my own personal situation and work ethics that lead me to disagree. Regardless, I liked reading what you had to say.

-krink

on 14 Jan 2004 11:03 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
Luckily the first of the two called back first. :)

on 14 Jan 2004 11:04 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
I've heard several people mention that book. Perhaps I should see if the Malden library has it.

on 14 Jan 2004 11:06 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
That really helps, because I go through these extreme ups and downs in my mood about interviews... On one hand, I know I'm smarter than the average bear(tm) and should be able to answer anything they ask just fine, but on the other hand, I get paranoid about answering the way they want to hear. Heh. Having a method would be nice.

on 14 Jan 2004 11:08 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
Happily, the shortest-term job I have so far is 7 months at Walmart, and no one can fault someone for not wanting to stay there. Heh.

So, in an LJ-related question, how do you keep track of what comments you've left, since you can't get response emails?

on 14 Jan 2004 11:15 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
Now you have me worried about how to answer, "What have you been doing this past 6 months?"

on 15 Jan 2004 11:35 (UTC)
Posted by (Anonymous)
It will be asked, be sure to have a good answer. Mention any schoolwork/independent study.

Watching Buffy and playing 3k aren't good answers. ;-)

-Αργω

on 15 Jan 2004 11:39 (UTC)
Posted by (Anonymous)
Your's is easy, I just check back every once in awhile. The Baron's isn't so easy, as he posts so frickin much.

I really should subscribe, isn't there some sort of code?

-Αργω

on 15 Jan 2004 11:47 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
It used to be, but now it's free!!! Just go to the main page and sign up. Shouldn't take too long. Then make sure to let us know that you did and what username you used.

on 15 Jan 2004 12:09 (UTC)
Posted by (Anonymous)
I hope they accept unicode characters

-Αργω

on 15 Jan 2004 12:51 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] jargo.livejournal.com
Unfortunately, they don't...and Argo was taken :-(

Ah well, this will be close enough.

on 15 Jan 2004 16:02 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
But wouldn't, "Finishing my last two classes by correspondence," lead to questions about why I didn't finish them in the first place? :P

on 16 Jan 2004 15:44 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] jargo.livejournal.com
The important bit is that you expect to finish up your degree in very short order, which would help you land a professional job. However, you may want to come up with an interesting story on why you decided to bolt from Oklahoma before finishing up, or you can remain mysterious and say you suddenly moved to boston for personal reasons. ;-)

on 16 Jan 2004 18:46 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
Ooh, I'll say personal reasons, if only to use one of my favorite lines from one of my favorite movies...

Hackshaw: Why?
Lovecraft: Personal reasons.
Hackshaw: And they are?
Lovecraft: [stares unflinchingly at Hackshaw] Personal.

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