juldea: (by mercy)
juldea ([personal profile] juldea) wrote2005-01-13 09:37 am

miscarriage is murder

from [livejournal.com profile] en_ki (he's a font of interesting stuff, isn't he?)

If embryos are viable, valid human beings, isn't natural miscarriage the most threatening health issue in the world? Just think of how many people die every day... This article discusses it.

[identity profile] en-ki.livejournal.com 2005-01-13 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
I'm invisible! Yay!

[identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com 2005-01-13 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
....

*edits*

[identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com 2005-01-13 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, who knew that <en_ki> wasn't a valid HTML command? ;)

[identity profile] en-ki.livejournal.com 2005-01-13 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
Clearly I'll have to rough up some W3C delegates.

[identity profile] anitra.livejournal.com 2005-01-13 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
Wouldn't miscarriage be involuntary manslaughter?

Yes, miscarriage makes me wonder about my stance on abortion. But I think it's the difference between God/Nature stopping/preventing a life, and (wo)man taking that power into our own hands.

*shrug* This is why I'm not totally anti-abortion (only mostly).

[identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com 2005-01-13 10:13 am (UTC)(link)
Right... but I'm not talking about making it illegal... Basically this way: People die of cancer, or the flu, or other naturally-cased diseases often. We as humans dislike this and actively work to find cures to these things, even though it's God taking these lives, yes? So why aren't we more worried about ending the miscarriage epidemic?

I think I totally mislabelled my thoughts here by making the statement about murder. I'm not thinking about anything humans do voluntarily, simply the horrible death rates.

[identity profile] anitra.livejournal.com 2005-01-13 11:24 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, gotcha.

Yeah, that's a good question. I think most people, even those who say that life starts at conception, really have a hard time visualizing a person in a cluster of cells that doesn't even look like anything yet.

[identity profile] en-ki.livejournal.com 2005-01-13 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
(and doesn't have a brain, which is a requirement for most of the traits that distinguish a person from a thing)